Have had the nuby’s in the 1/3 acre field for 2 weeks. As this article says, conflict is inevitable, so I just make sure the kids are sturdy enough to run away. If you mean that the dominant doe won’t let the other one near the hay feeder, that makes total sense, but don’t worry about it because once the dominant one has her fill, she’ll go lay down to chew her cud, and then the other one can eat. They have to establish their pecking order. Thanks. I took in a 2 week old goat thats mother died. It could be that the does are in heat or were in heat but are not any longer, so he’s frustrated. Two days later the other doe had a premature birth and the baby died. Nigerian kids are usually about 3 pounds. This is why I recommend wethers as pets. Bobcat footprints will not have toenail marks, as coyotes' and dogs' do. She would be standing for him to mount her. She just had another male. I kept them all together to breed until one of the bucks lost a foot in a fence accident. She has always been a very sweet, timid goat but now she attacks me every time i’m in the field and constantly tries to ram me and knock me over. Our bottle baby is 10weeks old and polled and the other is 8weeks but with horns. He is such a sweet boy and I do not want that ruined. I have 4 month old male and female Lemancha/Nigerian dwarf mix goats. If they kid within 24 hours of each other, they might let the other doe’s kids nurse. We have had a bottle baby for a few months and just got another buckling. She’s 10 years old, and has never been breed. Many people are afraid of rats and with good reason. They are all dwarfs but the dominant one is definitely bigger than our other male. But I did have a goat continue fighting one time unless he had a concussion and was staggering around with his eyes going in different directions. A reputable breeder would NOT have sold you an intact buck and a doe and told you to keep them together. You don’t want them locked up in a barn all day long, every day because they need fresh air. It’s not the smell of disbudding that’s the problem. Any tips? If he is pushing him against a fence like woven wire or welded wire, he should be fine because the fence is flexible, so he won’t get squashed. When the buck is kept separate, you can just put him with a doe whenever she is in heat so that you know when she is due. Thank you. If there is an enclosed pasture next to the current wether pen where the goats can share a fenceline for a day, that might reduce the head butting and chasing a little bit initially, but there is no way to avoid it completely. Both my goats have horns. If you see one of the does in heat, you can just put her with one of the bucks for an hour or two for breeding, then separate them again. I had 4 goats. We live 5000 feet. If you have to deal with a goat like this a lot, you can try to train it out of charging people through positive and negative reinforcement. The horned one has the advantage and she knows it. Another dangerous goat diseases that might passed to humans listeriosis. Three of the goats were weather’s, one pygmy was the dominant one. It sounds like you have a standard sized goat with horns with a couple of smaller goats, such as Nigerian or pygmy, that do not have horns. Females are typically more aggressive than males. Are their tummies stronger than I think? Yes, they are establishing a pecking order. The one used to be the dominant male is now an outcast, by the new male, and He will not let him inside the shed to sleep. The younger wether is trying to establish himself by not letting the dwarf wether eat or come into their stall. I had separated them close to kidding as they were doing a lot of head butting. Hopefully they all either have horns — or not. We got 2 does at 8 months old back in March. I separated her when she kidded and for a while after. I have a 2 year old pygmy goat, I would like to get another one, how would I introduce another goat to him? In reality, they are actual… If they are all disbudded, the chances of the hurting each other are pretty slim. Now the mama and 2 year old goat ram and go after the other goat. I have temporarily separated them but they are fretting for each other when can they go back to being together. Should i leave the new one in the stable with them from day one? Just like humans, sheep like to maintain a distance, or safe zone, between themselves and others. I don’t want her to kid again until next summer. If that’s your concern, then you can stop worrying. It’s not usually much — less than a tablespoon. You can try feeding them in separate stalls in the barn or placing their hay feeders far apart. I think if you are making generalizations about fighting you need to distinguish goat types. Most mountain goats roam the vast open spaces of Alaska and Canada, where they tend to have very little contact with humans. I have 2 weather goats. The blood samples won’t uncover brain diseases that could have altered behavior. There is not anything you can do about it. They won’t let her have her share of hay, and sometimes they’ll even try to keep her out of the shelter. Thank you for your article! Thanks. However, the fact that the new underdog used to be the dominant one means he has a personality that might mean he doesn’t really want to do that. That’s what this post is all about. https://thriftyhomesteader.teachable.com/p/goat-breeding. Do you have any experience with a doe acting bucky? Some does are more quiet and docile than others when in heat, but some months can be worse than others. You don’t want the other doe to meet the kid inside where she could slam him against a wall. I have one ND weather that has decided to start ramming into one of my smaller goats, and when we are harnessing the alpacas to take them out, he rams them in the legs also. Idk what the blood might have been about, but I don’t really think it’s fair to assume the buck’s horns were the cause, or that he should go to the freezer. It depends on the individuals. Any reason why? She almost growls at the pregnant goat and won’t let her near the baby. Hopefully they will get things worked out. I am not sure what to do. Basically you are completely overwhelming the goat’s sense of smell so that they can’t smell anything else. The behavior is totally normal. Help. Mountain goats don't have the same "flight" response to humans as many other animals. Thank you. is helping. She was very lethargic but pulled through. They live in the same pen together. When given a choice four out five goats will attack a child before attacking either another goat or an adult. It’s usually once done once. How long do you think this will last? If that happens, they will bleed, but they’re usually fine. I just brought home a 8week old buck for them. I think he said that all three of his goats were horned, not just the buck. One time I had a very mellow doe with triplets the same age, so I put a set of orphaned triplets in a stall with her and her kids. ( so was the baby boy) We want to put them all back together soon and would appreciate any advice. We got two goats 3 years ago and one of them came pregnant. The older one is always headbutting her companion!!! Some people refer to grain as “goat crack” because they will literally eat themselves to death. I figured they would be excited to be together, but our mama goat Millie keeps head butting her sister, the one we just took in. And sometimes the goats that are the most outgoing towards humans are the roughest with other goats. The mix is very sweet and never fights back. Or rehome the horned one. They chase the other goat away from food treats weeds grass etc. You can’t do anything about it. Now I want him to have a friend! Separating your boys will (1) make them very unhappy when they are apart because they are herd animals and need a friend, and (2) cause even worse head butting when you put them back together as they have to establish dominance all over again. Some people actually keep a wether with their does to let them know when the does are in heat. Thank you! The breeder told me that it was ok to keep them in the same pen. This is totally normal behavior when you bring a new goat into a herd. Keep in mind that it’s normal for them to butt heads a little when they are first put together. You don’t want your doe getting pregnant more than once per year, and you definitely don’t want young does getting bred before they are big enough to give birth safely. I think the bigger goat is still recovering so is not as strong as he used to be. I wouldn’t worry about anything down to at least 10 below Celsius as long as they have a place to get out of the wind — and it ‘s not snowing. If the door is open, I wouldn’t worry about them going inside. It wasn’t too bad. After a few hours, one of the mix’s ‘caps’ got knocked off and it’s bleeding alot. They don’t all do it, but it happens. There’s no way to know if it’s going to be a problem or not. There is usually less head butting when you do that for a few days, but it doesn’t eliminate it entirely. We’d like to bring their little family back together. It’s one of the disadvantages of horns. Unfortunately there isn’t much you can do about his behavior. I have two does that are new to me but came from the same herd when purchased. Will they hurt her or are they just establishing a pecking order? Unfortunately, no, there’s not much you can do. I have now separated them as i cant stand it…but dont have space to keep them apart as that camp is actually for my cow. By joining Slate Plus you support our work and get exclusive content. No fights, but the new male simply picks on the one male. The look of this goat is ferocious and it actually hails from the northern parts of India. I’ve been enjoying the article and the comments but I’m not really a fan of all this apparent hate on horns, as I have a mostly horned herd and personally love the horns. They are apart at the moment. I have two 4 month old weathered brothers, one polled and one with horns. What should I do? Typo. I have Nigerian Dwarfs. THis does not mean they don’t head butt although there is usually a reason for it. Dogs go after goats individually or in packs, with pack attacks being the worst. You can scratch her behind her ears or under her chin. I am I want to help her but I found her twice this evening laying in tall grass , unresponsive. No horns on anyone. Sometime if they share a fenceline initially they are more mellow when they are finally on the same side of the fence, but that depends on their individual personalities too. They were bottle fed by someone and we purchased them together around 8 months of age. 2. The males could do serious damage and even kill a young kid with their horns because they are so much bigger right now. The mum is the dominant one of the two, but the other doe is butting the baby. She also still looks pregnant because she eats constantly and chases the others away from food even though we have multiple hay sources and pans for the grain feed. He is 2 years old this month, I’m worried about adding goats. Do goats attack people? A doe would be coming into heat every 3 weeks, and some can actually get violent with other goats during heat, or they may scream their head off for hours. They can survive for a long time. I wouldn’t be too worried about it unless the pygmy has horns. This type of behavior in wethers is not that unusual, especially if he was castrated as an adult and was already sexually mature. I’d put her outside first thing in the morning so that they have all day to get things worked out in the pasture. Since she is a standard breed, there is a chance that she could hurt them. Should I keep them apart for a little while or let them head butt it out? I hope the commenter consulted a vet or other experienced person about his bleeding doe and figured out what was going on. Crosses between NDs and LMs are usually about 7 pounds. Scurs can get broken off when butting heads with any goat, but it is not a good idea to mix horned goats with goats that don’t have horns because the ones with horns have an unfair advantage, and it can end badly. Can I leave a 3 month old buck with two wethered goats that are 10 months old? Tim Jun 20, 2017 @ … It’s hard to know what motivated Saturday’s attack. Many people are choosing to raise goats as part of a sustainable lifestyle. To tell the difference, look at the footprints. They are both 6 months old. The moms are just protecting their milk for their own babies. I would not want goats like this to be together. The one with horns controls everything the other male does. I have a 4 month old doe and buck. Thanks Thank you for your quick response, I’m new at this, they are pets mostly. Sheep and goats are a better match than 2 breeds of goats especially if some are seasonal and others non seasonal breeders. Mountain goats can whip their heads around faster than other ungulates like caribou and elk, and their horns are razor-sharp. Hi Christine I think the goats at the zoo are very comfortable around humans. She has a major physical advantage and is using it to be the herd queen. They are very nasty to him. Usually when there is a big difference between two goats, the fighting doesn’t last very long because it’s obvious who the boss is. The other one, however, is acting like a buck. She should be with other kids her age. And any advice on how to fix this so they all share a home? One set of twin Nigerian wetness. Bob lives with my horse. I don’t know if it will always be the same with one controlling the other as the dominant male or if they could just get along. Out of 650 kids here, we’ve had four does that were carrying kids that were just over 5#. Got a question about today’s news? Thank you!!! There is not much you can do. There’s a fair bit of head butting going on and I’m worried the little kid will get hurt. When I pen breed, I only see about one out of three does get bred. ok, we built a door, locked the three in for the night. My female beats up my male Then hits him a second time when he faints. They are not hormonal because they’ve been castrated. One of the males has been caught ramming into the side of the females. She was bloody in the rear again , for some reason it’s just the same Doe and she is frantic to get away from him . One of my males however won’t leave one of my females alone. Looking forward to your newsletter. I rescued him as a baby and never cut his horns. He lost his companion 4 months ago so yesterday we introduced a 11 week old buck pygmy with horns. If the two adults have been separated, however, they might butt heads a little when you put them back together. She picks at the mini-pony, and even my 2 huge dogs. They are usually loose and may even get knocked off during head butting. I have separated them because he is relentless and I have not seen this type of discharge before. We picked up two 3 month old Nigerian wethers to keep him company. My husband and I are staying at a ranch with a very large goat pen outside our back patio. This is totally normal behavior. How long do I give them to adjust to a new home? There was only a fence between so they could still see each other. I just brought home a 3month old Mini fainting goat 2 days ago. I kept them separated for the first month. Without knowing your set-up, it’s difficult to give specific suggestions. I will keep them separate for a couple weeks at least. It’s usually a good idea to keep them separate for a few days until the kid is steady on his feet.